To All My Bioidentical Hormone Sisters (BIHS)…
TweetI just wanted to let you know more about why I decided to start this blog…and to let you all know how much I appreciate your comments.
I started this blog out of pure hormonal rage. That is, my anger towards all the docs that have MIS-treated me, MIS-diagnosed me, and just plain PISSED me off. I feel so empowered by all your comments. I knew I was not alone. With your help we just may change the way women are treated. We may not change the way main-stream medicine treats us, but now we have the power and knowledge to find docs that actually know how to help us, and how to use bioidentical hormones. Keep the comments coming.
Your fellow maniac,
Judy B.
Tags: bioidentical hormones, menopause, menopause and hormones, menopause mania
Hi This is the first time I’ve ever seen a blog like this. I signed up for the Body Logic therapy 2 weeks ago and see the doc on Nov. 6th. I have a genuine hope that this will help me. I am from Indiana and fortunately there is a Body Logic doc in Indianapolis (Dr. Roger Spahr). I only live 35 min from Indy so this is a blessing & a miracle!!! By the way, I too am a registered nurse (critical care). I am 34 and have suffered with my problems for almost 10 years now!! I was prescribed Effexor then, it helped for a while, but now it does nothing and all the while, I knew my problems stemmed 100% from hormonal issues. The Effexor was only a “band-aid”. Since we are starting our therapy around the same time, I would like to keep posted about your progress. You are probably swamped with comments, but if you get time, I would like to ask you a few questions regarding my symptoms and the therapy. Just send me an email. Thanks Tiffany
Hey, thanks for your blog! it’s going to be helpful/comforting/motivating to a lot of women out there.
I think I may have a unique problem. I started with bioidentical hormones 6 weeks ago. Not with a body logic doc, but with a local doc who does the pellets, based on blood test. what we’ve found out is that my free testosterone hasn’t increased, although my total testosterone and estrogen have. Have you had this experience?
Also, thanks to Tiffany for her comments = I didn’t notice that there was a doc in Indianapolis. I’m only 75 minutes from there (Im in cincinnati) so that may be my next step!
Good luck!! and keep the posts coming….
Hi Kelly, like I said before, my doc orders saliva tests for the estrogen/testosterone levels. They don’t rely on blood work because it’s not as accurate. Just ask your doctor about it, and I would encourage you to see a BodyLogicMD because they are specialists in hormones and often know more about hormone therapy than regular doctors.
Judy B.
Hi! This is my first time to ever to blog and I have been dealing with noticeable hormonal symptoms for about 3 years now and have been looking into this bioidentical hormone theray for about a year now. I live in Dallas, TX so I am really close to a Dr. Susan Linder who is in Ft. Worth. Before proceeding to calling and making an appointment I wanted to get more information and feedback from women who are on this type of therapy. To be honest I am more afraid of the cost of all of it, than I am of starting the therapy. I don’t want to go to a regular GYN, just to get a pill to mask my sysmtoms. I want real results that won’t harm my body. I like doing things as natural as possible. Anyway, Thanks for the blog.
Mary
Hi Mary, welcome. You are not alone. I’ve heard from a lot of women that say this is their first time on a blog. It’s my first time too. I understand your concern about the cost. I felt the same way. Looking back all I can say is how could I NOT afford this. It has been life changing. The synthetic estrogen I was taking was costing me $50 every 2 weeks, and that was just my co-pay. Now I pay $40 every other month and the dose is 1/10 of what I was taking. The most important thing to consider, at least to me, is the saliva testing. This is key in determining the course of treatment. If you do not find out where your hormone levels are, how can you get the proper treatment? It has been drilled into my head for over 8 years now that all I need is estrogen, and in fact what I need most is progesterone. I do not suffer from hot flashes anymore, I fall asleep and stay asleep without any medication (for the first time in years) and I feel overall normal. Bioidentical hormone therapy has given me my life back. I don’t know what else to tell you, it works. It’s worth the investment. I hope you can swing it. Good luck to you and keep following the blog to hear other women share their experiences. JudyB
Hi Everyone:
I have been on bioidentical hormones for aprox. 8 months. I was suffering terribly with menopause. I felt depressed, angry, weight gain, aged, and not feeling like I could hold my thoughts together. I had to quit my job because my symptoms were horrible.
I started on the bioidentical creams of testosterone 2mg,30 Bi_Est(80/20) 1.25m/GM , and 15 Progesterone 100MG/.5 and I have to tell you that I was alittle sceptical in thinking that nothing was going to help me. Well I’m here to tell you that this is the best I have felt since I was a young teenager. I am 54 yrs old now and have not felt better. Although I am having one major problem right now.
I don’t know if this is attributed to the 3 creams that I apply to my wrist daily, but I have the worse arm pain. I will be seeing an orthopedic doctor on Monday to see what is causing this pain in my arm that has come on gradually since I started using these creams. I don’t want to get off of them, because I feel wonderful when taking them. I have gotten off of them several times to see if that was the problem, and my arm pain decreased but have always returned to taking them again because I become so menopausal.
I can tell you that if you are on the border of deciding whether to take these or not, DO IT!! I would have never believed the miracle of taking my menopausal symptoms away. By the way, my insurace pays for this treatment and I pay copays.
I would really like feedback from anybody who are using bioidenticals to see if they have any problems with arm pain and if there is something that can be done to alieate my arm pain symptoms.
JoniN
Hi JoniB, I am so grateful for your story and am glad you’ve been able to get rid of your menopause symptoms. I say the same thing, DO IT! I’m so sorry you are having pain in your arm. Did you speak with your hormone doctor? What about the pharmacist? They are a wealth of untapped knowledge. I hope the Ortho doesn’t suggest you stop. What about putting the natural hormone creams on your belly? Sometimes I use estrogen cream and testosterone there. And don’t forget your thighs, finally a purpose for chubby thighs! Not that yours are chubby. Please check back after your Ortho appointment, I am quite curious as to cause of your pain. Don’t let him blow you off either; we all know how they do that.
Judyb
Hello,
I came across this blog looking for info to send a friend on this subject.
Glad you are all doing well.
I am 54, in great health and went on BHRT about 3 years ago, and I am a patient advocate for a well known doctor in California.
I feel great, but must caution that it takes more than hormone creams. You must eat well, and exercise, too.
And, you must always use your BHRT correctly.
Never EVER rub hormone creams on your belly. They should be rubbed into the “limbs” ONLY. Thighs and the underside of the upper arms are recommended, (not wrist, either) becasue they are best absorbed into the “fat base”. Everyone has “some” fat on the inner thighs and upper arms, even if you’re skinny.
The fat on the belly, however, is not just “fat”… (no matter how little fat you may have there) That fat is actually a “separate organ” which metabolizes estrogens, so you would never want to put any hormone directly into that fat base. (This is another reason why belly fat is the most dangerous kind.)
Again…LIMBS. I’m sure your doc will tell you this if you ask, and any doc that tells you it doesn’t matter is not well informed on bio-identicals.
Good luck, ladies!
L.
Bonnie,
I can’t really answer that, sorry. But I suggest you visit the BodyLogicMD blog and leave your question as a comment on that blog, that way a BodyLogicMD physician can get back to you with an informed answer. Or just email them. Good Luck!
Judyb
What a great blog. For the first time in my life I have experienced mood swings and physcial symptoms such as breast swelling and pelvic cramps. I have rarely suffered from cramping before. I no longer have night sweats, insomnia or hot flashes. What is most difficult to tolerate is the erratic mood — anxious and irritable. My GYN tried me on HRT and it sent me into a depression. He told me this was not from the drug. When I stopped the drug the depression lifted.
Any suggestions for a doc in the Cincinnati area? Thanks.
Hi Nancy: It is a fact that HRT cause your symptoms. For that reason I was put on bioidenticals. I suffered from anxiety, depression and panic attacks before. I am less than a week..and NO MORE of the above. RUN to your bioidentical gyno specialist. I live in NJ dr cindy parnes – she uses EMERSON compounding emerson NJ with dr frieche – one of the top compounding pharmacists in the country. Stop suffering. I was on all too many antidepressentants and antianxiety meds that didn’t work. This is hormonal and easy fix. rub that cream in and wake up refreshed! Hope everyone here finds their optimum dosing.
Nancy,
I would never recommend hormone therapy that is not bioidentical. Too many risks otherwise. Too many GYN (including my old one) don’t know what they are talking about.
I would suggest Dr. Roger Garcia or Dr. David Garcia of BodyLogicMD in Columbus. I know they are a couple hours from you, but in my experience, it’s worth it.
Good Luck and keep me updated,
Judyb
what a nice blog! i am 48 and was post menopausal at age 42. it was horrible in that i called my ob/gyn and her nurse told me to call a psychiatrist!!!! i told her there was something wrong with me and she totally blew me off. anyway the following january my periods completely stopped – and i called again. i went in for blood work and my ob told me i was post menopausal! i felt like the rug had been pulled from under me. i finally knew the answer to my irratibility, my madness, sadness, uncontrollable emotional swings.. however, i was stunned that i was no longer able to bear children… not that i wanted to – already had two… by the way – my doctor looked at my chart and apologized for the nurse instructing me to see a psychiatrist! she had not signed off on it!!!! regardless, it did not stop my husband from leaving, my children from seeing my madness and pure hellish emotional rage. i was angry at the world and could not figure why?
anyway, like i said i am now 48 and have used no hrt’s. i really am encouraged with the information we are now receiving on bio-identical hormones and even though i have none of the easily diagnosed symptoms, i feel i need to get my “levels” balanced and that it would propel me toward greater health and happiness…
so, i am currently pursuing bio-identical hormones and the moral of my story is: do not let the nurse stop you from seeing the doctor. demand you be seen – have your levels tested at an early age. if i was post menopausal at age 42, i must have been peri-menopausal for at least 2 years prior. who would have ever thought?
anyway, don’t let this natural progression destroy your beauty as a woman. go for it, enjoy it, and do the next right thing by taking charge of your hormones!!!
Oh it is so nice to hear from another 48 yr old woman who has gone thru the same identical situation as myself. I went to the Obgyn a month ago after a long 6 months of total torture to myself and my fiance (who almost said the heck with all this..hes 41). He put me on Primpro and I was still on my birth control pills to boot. Finally after 2 weeks of both I called and asked do I really need to be on both is there a chance of getting pregnant when blood levels showed I was at a 79 Post Menapausal? He told me NO but I am scared to proceed its either one or the other he said… So if someone knows the answer to this I would greatly appreciate your feedback. Its a little late in the game to be having a child in my world.
Hi Carmen,
I understand what you must be going through. I am not a doctor, however, I work with some affiliates that are experts in hormones and the changes that occur with aging. One of these doctors will be able to offer you expert and detailed advice for your particular situation. You can contact an office staff member to learn more about the doctors nearest you and take advantage of a complimentary question and answer style seminar. Just follow the link below. I hope this helps!
http://www.bodylogicmd.com/contact-a-physician
Trying to find a doctor in Dallas, TX which is the closest major city to my home. Fort Worth TX one is too far. Does the doctor have to be with BodyLogicMD to be good? Please help!!
Sherry,
The best I can suggest is to locate your nearest compounding pharmacy and ask them to suggest a physician specializing in bioidentical hormones. Make sure you do your research before seeing them, but it gives you some ground work. Good Luck.
Judyb
plzz give me a number for dr garcia
Anita,
888-657-4562 for Dr. David Garcia and Dr. Roger Garcia-they’re brothers. Visit this link: http://www.bodylogicmd.com/anti-aging-physicians and click on Ohio, then their names to learn more about them. good luck
Judyb
I am wondering if anyone found a good doctor in Dallas. I am not opposed to going to Ft. Worth, but wish I could find someone closer. I just do not want to pick one without knowing if good or not.
I have found another facility in Indianapolis that does bioidentical hormone replacement therapy. They are half the cost of body logic, do all the same testing as body logic (ie., saliva, adrenal fatigque, blood work) and this facility bills your insurance company!!
I’m trying to locate this other facility in Indy that will bill insurance for bioidentical hormone therapy. Help, who are they?
Hi Angie,
Unfortunately, we do not have a BodyLogicMD location in Indiana, but there are several in the surrounding states. We have a special program for billing insurance and you generally only have to see your doctor in-person once per year, so a nearby practice may work for you. Follow this link to find the location nearest you: http://www.bodylogicmd.com/bioidentical-hormone-doctors and click the “Contact a Physician” button to learn more about the program and out insurance options. Please let me know how everything goes!
~ Menopause MANIAC
Pam,
What is the name of the facility in Indianapolis besides body logic?
I am in Indianapolis also, would love to know the other facility you were talking about. I just found out about bodylogic but have not made an appointment, concerned about the cost. I have felt like I’m losing my mind the last few years with many symptoms. If it really works it would be a miracle!!!
Thanks everyone
Sheila
Hi Sheila,
I also had a concern about the cost, but a friend of mine help me realize that my sanity and I AM WORTH IT!
The amount of sleep that I am getting alone is worth it! It may be helpful to either attend one of their seminars – there you can talk to a BodyLogicMD doctor and get answers to any of your questions, or you can watch one of their seminars on the BodyLogicMD YouTube channel…
Take good care and take care of you!
MM
Hi,
Does anyone know of any doctors or clinics in Minnesota,preferably near or in Minneapolis/St. Paul area?
Also, what kind of costs are we talking, in general? The doctor appt is about $300 or so, but what about all the costs for tests and creams etc? I may need to take out a loan, as I am in grad school now (but I’m 50 years old and can’t sleep at night, hot flashes, night sweats, irritability, weepiness). I hate the thought of so much money, but need to know a ballpark figure(s).
Thanks,
Dee
I live in Dallas,Tx I am looking for a bio Dr. anywhere in tx
Hi Carolyn,
You can see the physician locations for BodyLogicMD at: http://www.bodylogicmd.com/bodylogicmd-physicians. Dr. Susan Linder is in Fort Worth area and we also have Dr. Wade Huey in The Woodlands – a little further of a drive, but you may be able to get into see him a little faster than Dr. Linder. Hope that helps…
In health,
Barbara
Also looking for a doctor near Dallas area. No insurance so cost is a big factor. I heard a doctor recommended on a high end local show for bio identical hormones. It was going to cost 1,000 by the time I saw dr. (250.00 for him to walk in the room) Then a bunch of blood test.
Obviously, not interested in helping women.
Are there no clinics which take into account the finances of the patient?
Tried to find compounding pharmacies, to no avail. (also was cautioned they are not regulated).
Could someone please put a dollar amount to their treatment. Thanks
Carolyn S
Pam: I too would like to know the name of the facility you have found. Thanks.
Sheila in Indianapolis
Hi,
I, too, am struggling with the weight gain around the middle, hot flashes, no interest in doing the fun stuff in life. I honestly feel I have been going through this for years. I am 54. It makes you feel crazy. I have friends going through the same thing. I have noticed that many women that take the premarin are also taking synthroid. Menapause and adrenal fatigue totally destroys your life. I am taking effexor; have tried to wean myself off. It isn’t going to happen. I have never taken any Bio hormones or premarin. I live in Plano, Texas Have been searching for a Bio Identical hormone Dr. My Dr. also has really just ignored my questions about BHRT. Any Drs in the Plano, Texas area that anyone knows about?
I have just started looking into the BHRT. I found the bodylogic one you were talking about however I live 30 miles east of Dallas and wonder if i can really aford to drive all the way to Ft Worth since I am currrently unemployed. I had found a Dr Woodward in Dallas. Does anyone know anything about him other than what all I have read online???
Thanks!
what is the name of facility in indianapolis
I highly recommend a new physician in Indianapolis, Dr. Angela LaSalle. She is with Integrative Health, a clinic service of Indiana Health Group. Visit her site at http://www.angelalasallemd.com. She specializes in endocrine issues, hormone therapy, thyroid, diabestes, inflammation and was very knowledgeable and helpful with me. She listened closely to my issues, explained in language that I could understand, and now we’re working on a treatment plan that fits me – not standard, traditional treatments that haven’t helped.
I came across this blog because I recently moved to Indy and share many of the same concerns you do – and knowing how tough it is to find the right physician. If you’re looking in Indy – give Dr. LaSalle a try. The best recommendation I can tell you is – she listens, she works at figuring out my issues, she works with me to figure out treatment plan, and doesn’t just let me fall through the health care cracks.
I STARTED BIO IDENTICAL CREAMS, PREGNEGLONE AND PROGESTERONE AND I DO FEEL BETTER. HOWEVER, SINCE I STARTED THEM MY PERIODS ARE ONLY 3 WEEKS APART AND I HAVE STRONG PELVIC PAINS AND BREAST TENDERNESS WHEN I OVULATE, WHICH I NEVER HAD PRIOR TO STARTING THE CREAMS. ANYONE HAVE THE SAME ISSUES?
i have been rubbing hard biodentical hormones on my stomach for 1 month and having severe cramps and pain bloating after i eat!!!!!!
anyone else?
I had Lap Band surgery 6 mths ago and have lost 40lbs but hormones have got worse, Iam looking into BodyLogic in my area, anyone know if Blue Cross PPO reimburses for expenses incured using Bodylogic
Hi Lynda,
No I haven’t had those symptoms. Have you called your doctor to discuss these symptoms?
Give them a call and let me know how it goes.
Take care,
Monica
Hi, How can I get my name Bonniejean Gorgievski removed on Jan. 20th , 2009 Judyth answered my question . It shows up on the internet when anyone Googles my name. Please remove it. thanks. Bonnijean
Hi Bonniejean,
I have asked them to remove your name.
Take good care,
Monica
I got bioidentical hormone replacement therapy in the spring of 2009. Took them via the Sotopelle (under skin pellet) and had a bad reaction. My platelete count went through the roof. Only reason I caught it is that I have to watch my CBC results often to control an iron overload problem. Doc who did them claims they (the hormones) were not to blame, but when I didn’t get them again after 6 months or so, my platelet count went back into the high normal range. No other reason for the spike or drop can be identified. Did the hormones work on my symptoms? Yes! But severely elevated platelets (which my Hemotologist said can be a result of quickly elevating hormones) isn’t good. Have your CBC checked prior to any pellets and meaure the CBC again in a couple months. Just realize that they (the pellets cannot be removed.) If the platelets are high (mine got to over 1.2 million, when normal is 200-400K) you should take baby aspirin to keep the blood thinned out and avoid “bleedou” and clotting. I’m not an MD, but had to do all of this at the direction of my doc. Now I ave to try and find a new therapy, as hot flashes are now back.
Follow-up to my earlier post…I live in the Cincinnati area. The “pellet doctor” advertises on radio, and he’s the one I went to. He was most cooperative, but never would acknowledge that the pellets could elevate platelet counts, even though I know a second person (a male) who had the same reaction to them. Just be cautious.
I am looking into the bio-identical replacement hormone pellet with Drs. in Nashville. Does anyone know anything about which one might be better: bedside manner, listening, interested in each patient, etc? I have tried almost every other kind of replacement therapy, all to no avail. I have had these symptoms now for almost 13 years. Am hoping this works. Thanks for the blog!
Hi LeAnn,
I hope you are well! Dr. Benita Swartout is one of the BodyLogicMD bioidentical hormone experts… and she is wonderful! Here’s some information about her so you can ‘get to know her’…
Hope that helps…
-Barb
This is to anyone who will please respond, and especially To those of you in Idianapolis/ Indiana area: please let me know if you have seen a hormone doc., and DID IT REALLY WORK??? I am 39, and am misserably sick. I think I have been going through menopause, and believe it or not, I think this has been going on for at least 6 years! I only get about 3 hours of sleep per night (if i am lucky), and I am angry, sad, emotional, depressed, and loosing muscle mass, impatient, tired, and desperate for answers. I teach fitness classes, and it is all I can do to “get over” the fatigue enough to teach classes. I love my children, but I have been grouchy. I have been seeing doctors for years.. have been told to take a nap, take antidepressants, prescription sleep pills, thyroid meds, and so much more — NO RELIEF. I am so tired.
I am seeking a bio-identical nurse prac in my area…. Please let me know if you can relate, and will it work???
I can definitely relate! I have been on bioidentical hormones for a little over two months now and have found tremendous relief! It’s important to make sure that you are getting your hormone levels checked to find out what your current levels are… that way you are treating with the most conservative dose you can… Also, be sure that you are using a high-quality compounding pharmacy that is regulated by the PCCA. I recommend it fully, but just be sure that you are using the right ‘tools.’
One more thing: MY once thick & glossy HAIR has been shedding for 6 yrs. too! It is thin, tangled, knotted, and brittle. My scalp is tender and painful. Is this hormones? Will hormone therapy help this?
It certainly could be… there is certainly a connection between hormones and hair loss.
I am confrused why none of the doctors take insurance such as Biologic and Dr. LaSalle in Indianapolis area? Any thoughts or does anyone know of someone in Indy area that will work with you with insurance for thyroid related issues which may cross into the hormonal and bio side? Thanks!!
Traditional medicine hasn’t caught up to preventive medicine! Just a guess…
I have been on Prempro for 4 years now, stopped the flashes and night sweats but I stopped taking them Feb 1, still get a couple of sweats at night but I just want to get off the synthetic stuff. I have been suffering on and off with depression like stuff, don’t look forward to anything, just feel unhappy, have a great husband but I have a feeling of disconnect with everyone, even my husband. Makes me cry to feel like that. Has anyone felt like this and is it hormonal??
Hi Teresa,
Yes, depression definitely has a hormonal component. I wanted to share some information to give you more insight into the connection between hormones and depression.
Feel better!
Barbara
Hi,
I am the business development director for Best Value Pharmacies in the Ft. Worth area.
I found your blog today and wanted to let you know that Dr. Susan Linder is no longer a Bodylogic physician. Unfortunately there are only 2 other physicians in the Texas are that are BodyLogic doctors.
That being said, there are other physicians in our area treating with bio-identical hormones; including Dr. Linder.
Our compounding pharmacies would be happy to help any of your friends find a physician in the Ft. Worth area. We understand the importance of women having good care and understanding during peri-menopause, menopause and post menopause.
Sincerely,
Callier
I had a total hysterectomy in September 1992. I was prescribed and took Premarin for 18 years. I went to a new “doctor” in January 2010. On January 31, 2010, I entered HELL with my eyes wide open. OMG! the first two weeks were okay, after that I started getting nausea, diarrhea, headache and felt very weak. I went to my “real doctor” yesterday, he said “I believe the creams are poisoning you, they are toxic to you!” so he ran a bunch of labs (kidney, liver, electrolytes, etc) my counts are all way off, the creams were poisoning me. They don’t work for everybody. I’m going to stop USING all HRT, and see how I am now as far as symptoms, my “real doctor” said “you’re probably through menopause, and don’t even need HRT.” So, I am going to find out, one thing I know for sure is this…I NEVER NOT ONCE had a problem with Premarin, but one month of creams literally could have killed me. NO creams for me anymore! Be careful, they’re not right for everybody!
Hi Nancy,
You are 100% right – creams are not right for everyone. One of the most important aspects of using HRT is to understand what your actual hormone levels are and based on the results of comprehensive testing, prescribe a customized dosage for each individual – using a compounding pharmacy – not over the counter, one size fits all creams that are available at a drug store.
Under the care of a highly trained specialist, like one of BodyLogicMD’s expert bioidentical hormone doctors, many women, including me (I’m only 34 years old and am not in perimenopause or menopause, but have adrenal fatigue), have had great success treating the symptoms of hormone imbalance (not just menopause). I hope that you’ll look into it a little more before crossing this great option off your list!
Let us know if there are questions that you have… we are happy to help!
In health,
Barbara
Hi everyone!!..Well I just found out that I have hormone inbalance?..I went to do my regular annual exam with my OB..one of the questions I asked was why I was feeling very sad and would cry for any reason. I just got married a couple of months ago and my husband said that I have been crying too much sometimes 24 hrs straight, and I have more than one symptoms..so can anybody tell me what I can do or questions to ask?..please help. thanks.
Hi Sandra,
I’m sorry to hear that you’re feeling sad and weepy so often. Have you had your hormone levels checked – is that how you determined that you have a hormone imbalance? If not, getting your hormone levels checked is a great first step.
I wanted to share some information about the connection between depression and your hormones. When your estrogen, progesterone and cortisol are out of balance, it can wreak havoc on your moods.
There is a lot of great information about the symptoms of hormone imbalance in women for you to review. I hope that you’ll find the answers you are looking for (and the questions to ask). Feel free to write back and let us know how we can help!
Stop back in and let us know how you’re doing!
In health,
Barbara
I live in the INdy area. I have Lupus SLE. I have endometriosis to the point that my gyn. suggested I have a total hysterectomy since I’m done having children. I have 4, am 37. My endo. has spread out into my other surrounding organs that they cannot safely laser off. So, I am going to ask about my gyn. about these hormones after the surgery vs. the synthetic. Does anyone else out there have similar issues? I know my gyn. does this form of treatment and has a pharmacist she trusts that she works with. Thanks!
has anyone had horrible shakes 24/7 with perimenopause icant standi it anymore. went to body logic they say me progesterone is low just got my order today does it help with shakes and how long does it take to work? thanks
I had a hysterectomy in 93 and 94 (took uterus out first – nearly killed me) then had ovaries removed because endrometriosis took over my bowels. I have been sick ever since. Was on synthetic estrogen but was taken off of 7 years ago. My body is of a 65 year old and I am 44. You name it, it is wrong with me – I am sick 24/7 with no relief. Went to a Dr. Miles on the southside of Indianapolis – he is a gyno. Tested me for all kinds of things. Took blood and I did saliva testing. I am highly allergic to a lot of meds, and because I am on a lot of them now, I was worried about interactions of the biodentical hormones. So I took it slow and started with the progesterone cream (as told by the pharmacist) – for 5 straight days, I could not move my arms, neck and shoulders – the pain was so severe and it brought me back to the pain I was in all those years with the synthetic estrogen. I was told you have fibromyalgia – but funny thing, when I got off the hormones, it stopped – but everything else happened. I then went off of the natural progestrone and the pain stopped. I have tried to get answers, but I am going to be honest, I am not fond of this Dr. Miles – he does not care that I am different. I want to go on these drugs because my bones are bad, I am at high risk for heart disease, I have high blood pressure, and turning into a diabetic. Probably because I know my body has been failing since the hysterectomy, buy NO one listens! Does anyone have any recommendations for other doctors in the Indy area. Unfortunately, along with everything else, I have vertigo really bad and cannot travel the interstate. A doctor on the southside of Indy would be fantastic – I just do not know what to do! Any suggestions or has anyone had this happen (pain from these “natural drugs”).
I have been on BHRT cream for a year now. I like it, but I still have no libido. Doctor won’t increase testosterone, I am on 1mg est/1mg testosterone/50mg progresterone. Anyone out there experiencing same problem?
Janna – I highly recommend Dr. Angela LaSalle in Carmel, IN, just north of Indianapolis. She is GREAT! She listens to ME, and figures out a treatment plan that works even with all my other medical complications. She will work with you and find your best mix of treatments – prescriptions, supplements, oral or transdermal, whatever. Visit her website – http://www.angelalasallemd.com. I moved to Indy over a year ago and was desperate to find a doctor too. Finding her was a godsend and huge blessing! Don’t waste time – try her.
Can anyone recommend a centre in the UK, if known, where I can find help? A clinic which performs hormone testing, treatment, etc. Along the line of body logic would do fine. Many thanks, Anna
ii went last week to see dr julia piper,last week she takes blood and prescribes bio identicals ,i should be getting my cream soon ,so will see how i go. `it cost aprox 550 pound so isnt cheap but we owe it to ourselves .ill leave u address and number good luck!!! private practise,3 knighton grange road,stonygate,leicester…… 01162700373.
I live in Houston, TX. There is a bodylogic doctor here. I’m just about to contact him. Does anyone have experience of him in Houston or know another doctor who is cheaper? Thanks in advance.
Ladies,
1st time on blog as many of you. I wanted to share another name with all of you in the Indy area. Swathi Rao (PA-C). She is with Health & Wellness of Carmel (119th/Meridian). She is fabulous at putting all the pieces together. I have been on BHRT for about 4 months using the under-the-tongue troches. It has helped tremendously, but we are still working on the right combination for me. I highly recommend her. Good luck to you all!
Hi Carole,
I’m assuming you’re talking about Dr. Huey, and yes he’s wonderful! I did some homework before starting treatment and in comparison to other options that are out there, his prices are pretty resonable. To be honest, as corny as it sounds, you can’t put a price on health and I would of paid much more to feel as good as I do today. I’ve been using bioidentical hormones for 9 months now. Dr. Huey started me on an exercise regimen and his assisstant Rebecca is a certified nutritional expert and specializes in dietary supplementation, so between eating better, working out and taking the right supplements, I’ve really been able to get my health back on track.
Let me know if you want anymore information, I have his business card with his contact info.
Good luck to you Carole,
Laurie
I was an active , supper energetic person that jogged and lifted weights until 1 year ago at which time i started gaining weight until i reached a 25lb weight gain. At that time I saw my GP with a couple tries at different Antidepressants to remedy the lack of energy and weight gain. Nothing worked for me. I stopped menses 3 years ago and have spiraled into numerous symtoms, depression, lack of energy, moody, fatigue, weight gain, difficulty with thought process to name a few.
I went to my GYN and was put on a hormone supplement that did nothing for me, for 3 months, then I was put on Primpro for 2 months and I have just gave up on it due to feelings of Anger and sever moodiness. I am so ready to try anything to get my strength back, and feel like myself again. I am hoping Bioidentical hormones will help me too. IF i feel like crap at 55 how will I feel at 65????? Luv Barb
Wow! It’s funny how isolated you feel until you start looking for answers. Then all of a sudden, you realize you aren’t alone! I have not had a cycle for over two years now. Started synthetic hrt in April (Activella) and was feeling pretty good. Then at the end of June, things started “breaking.” I fell and tore a rotator cuff, then I developed tendonitis in both elbows, but severe in the left (and I’m right-handed). I started bleeding again, but knew it was not a menstrual cycle. Then I pulled my right achilles tendon. My neck became really tight and I started waking in the middle of the night with my arms THROBBING from my shoulders down to the palms of my hands. I asked my gyn if there was a connection and she said absolutely not. She had me come in for an ultrasound since I was bleeding and found fibroids. Because I was bleeding, she said she wanted to biopsy them and also wanted to refer me to a rhuemetologist (sp?) for all the other things. I asked her if I could reduce the dose first to see if that would make a difference and she said no, what was happening had nothing to do with the hormones. When I was told that I had to take a pregnancy test and they would not take no for an answer… Despite the fact that (1) I have not had a cycle for two years; (2) My husband had a vasectomy ten years ago and; (3) She just did a flipping ultrasound and could see everything in there and I don’t recall a heartbeat being one of them… I knew this woman is in this for the billing and could care less about me or my health. I have canceled my biopsy and follow-up appts. with her and now here I am, on this journey and not alone at all. I hope I am able to eventually contribute some good info as I find my way. Thanks JudyB for this resource!
Wanted to know is the saliva test better then blood. Was told by one pharmacist it is. Also live in cincinnati oh. Worried about finding a dr that really knows there stuff and will follow up
curious to know if you found a doc in cincinnati that you like?
Hi Kim, there are two bioidentical hormone experts in Cincinnati. Follow the link below to learn more and schedule a consultation.
http://www.bodylogicmd.com/bioidentical-hormone-doctors/ohio/cincinnati
I just happened to run across your website while researching about the hormone pellte. I am 57 and had a hysterectomy 17 yrs ago. I have been suffering from menopause symptoms for almost 11 yrs now. sometimes I feel I am losing my mind! My family doc has me on Effexor ( for 10yrs) I take Trazodone ( to help sleep) I don’t like the way I feel when I wake up ( still don’t sleep normal) I also have have the sleep apena machine ( it doesn’t help) I have no desire to do anything, I am always tired. my moods change at the drop of a hat. I have lost all sex drive! my gyn doc put me on Testosterone injections ( with out doing any blood work) it made me hateful and also side effects that I did not like. My new family doc took me off of the injections and put me on hormone pills, I did not like what I read about them and stopped taking them. I read an ad for HRC Thearpy in Louisville, Ky (Dr. Farmer) I had my first visit last Wed. they did blood wok and I go back next week for the “pellet” insertion, they also give vitiman B 12 shots along with the thearpy. Although it is quite expensive and my insurance doesn’t cover it. the cost is $2,950.00 for the first year. (cheaper from then on) that covers all office visits, B 12 shots, all blood work and all pellet insertions. Although it costly, I knew I could not keep on living like I am, so I jumped at the chance!! Keeping my fingers crossd that this works. Has anyone else did the pellet thearpy? and did it help? I will keep you posted. Debbie
Help I need a gyno who specializes in bioidentical hormones I the Franklin /greenwood indiana area
I just started the HRC pellet therapy last week. I have noticed some subtle changes (in a positive way): more energy, more focused and decisive. However I have been having some cramping which reminds me of having a menstrual cycle. No bleeding, though. Has anyone experienced this? I don’t want to stop the program because I am very excited about the potential for feeling better. I am 57 and post menopausal, with all the usual symptoms. I think these bio-identical hormones are the way to go and I do like the pellet because you only have to go in about every 3-4 months to have one placed. Would appreciate anyone’s thoughts. cheryl
I’m 31 and I want to know if I can get the bioequivalent hormones pellet therapy?. Since I have my daughter I been having a lot of mood change, gain so much weight , and lost of sex drive, I cant sleep at night. thanks
Hi Romina,
I would love to help you! I am not a doctor, but there are affiliates that I work with that are experts in this area. You can get expert advice and get answers to your questions by following the link below and filling out the form. This network of doctors specialize in the symptoms you described and, in general, bioidentical hormone therapy. Once you fill out the form a member of the office staff will contact you to answer your questions. These doctors offer complimentary local seminars once-a-month in a question and answer format. I hope this helps!
http://www.bodylogicmd.com/contact-a-physician
I am living in a nightmare that won’t end!!! I had my uterus out when I was 26 and had both ovaries removed last year when I was 39…..I feel like crap. I have terrible hot flashes, night sweats, extreme irritability, thinning hair, no sex drive, depression, and weight gain. I’m taking Divigel ( rub into thigh) and it’s not working. I need to know if there is a doctor in Minnesota that does bio-identical hormone therapy??? I live in Rochester, home of the Mayo Clinic, but they aren’t on board with this type of treatment. Thanks!!
Hi Audie, there are two bioidentical hormone experts in Minneapolis. Follow the link below to learn more or schedule a consultation.
http://www.bodylogicmd.com/bioidentical-hormone-doctors/minnesota
thank you…i have been to bodylogic in minneapolis and am currently on a regimine. Do you know how long it typically takes before you feel or see results??
Hi Audie!
As you may know, I am not a doctor, just a fellow MANIAC, who believes in the effectiveness of bioidentical hormone therapy and the pursuit of good health! From my experience working with my doctor and chatting with the experts I work with, the timeline for results varies. My best advice would be to contact your physician and ask if he or she can advise you when you may see results – based on what they know about your specific case. Please keep me up to date on your journey – I know fellow MANIACS would love to hear your story. Have a great day and thanks for sharing!!
I have been seriously considering bio identical hormone therapy. I love in Cincinnati. Can anyone give me any advice as to which is better…pills, creams or pellets. Also there are several doctors in town. Has anyone had a good (or bad) experience with any of them that could help me with my search? Thanks for any help.
Hi Joyce, there are two bioidentical hormone experts in Cincinnati. Follow this link to learn more and schedule a consultation. http://www.bodylogicmd.com/bioidentical-hormone-doctors/ohio/cincinnati
I currently take creams and my testosterone is injected. I’m going on my 4th week and see some results. I hear the pellets are better, but I haven’t tried them.
I had a hyserectomy in may 2010. I was put on the vivelle dot and felt great for about 3 months. Then the hotflashes started and i wasn’t sleeping well. My doc doubled the dose of my patches. This made me feel horrible! I became so depressed i was suicidal. My mood swings were so bad I didn’t even like me. I took myself back to the initial dose and was at least a little better. By then hot flashes and sleepless nights seemed better than the alternative.
In April of last year, I began to be sick in my stomach all day every day. I was dizzy often and would vomit 2-3 times a day. Every test under the sun was done and nothing was found wrong. I asked my doc if it could be my hormones since it felt just like i did when i was taking massive amounts of hormones for infertility. She insisted it couldn’t be that, but i quit taking my hormone therapy just the same. It worked! I wasn’t sick or lightheaded any more. However, other symptoms have become worse.
I have now been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. I have symptoms such as aching all over, sleep disturbances, fatigue. Of course I wonder how much is hormone related and how much is really fibro. Then there are the hot flashes and mood swings (which are better off the patch, but still there). My libido is much lower – it was bad on the patch, but is now non-exisitant. I have much worse vaginal dryness and now also have a tightness down there that causes pain with intercourse. And my weight is out of control!!! Despite starting an excercise and healthy eating program recently, i gain a pound every 2-3 days. This started a few weeks ago when i quit my patch and has now amounted to almost 20 pounds!
I am desperate for help! my doc suggested we try to cut my patch dose in half again. I have little faith in this since they just keep guessing. I have $100 worth of patches at the higher dose in my medicine cabinet now (my insurance makes me do 90 day mail order or won’t pay). I don’t want to waste a month and alot of money trying something based on a wild guess. I am seriously considering bioidentical hormone therapy, but am not sure which to try.
Here in cincinnati we have HRT- does amore vie therapy. We have BodyLogic. We have a doc to does the pellets. And I have also found an OB/GYN who does bioidentical prescriptions for a compounding pharmacy. This last woudl be the cheapest since he actually bills insurance. However, I am willing to spend the money for what is best. Any ideas/opinions on which type of treatment gives the best results fastest?
Since then i have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. I hurt all over, wake multiple times a night and
i was looking online for a hormone doctor and came across with site. My issues are I simply to do feel up to par. I recentely started getting dull headaches, with little light headiness, no energy. I am going through menopause. I no longer have a menstral cycle, but continue to have hot flashes. I am 52 yr old. I have been told that perhaps my hormones are out of wack. I have put on weight. Not a lot but enough to make me stress about it. I eat healthy an occansionally exercise but no matter what I do the extra 30lbs + is there. I have no energy. Has anyone went through this and if so any suggestions on what I need to do or who I may see. My doctor doesnt seem to think it is a problem just diet and exercise. He hasn’t even address the issue of no energy, weight gain, light headiness.
Hi Sherry,
I would definitely love to help you out! The good news is that you are not alone in your experience and there are experts that can ease all your symptoms and make you feel like yourself again!
Follow the link below, fill out the form and a staff member from the doctor’s office will contact you (hours are Monday through Friday 9am to 6pm.)
http://www.bodylogicmd.com/contact-a-physician
I wish you all the best and please keep me informed of your journey – I know there a plenty of women out there who can relate to your story.
Have a good weekend!
Hi there. I’m looking into BHRT and have read about body logic and HRC medical. I live in the Nashville area. I was wondering if there are any GYNs that will prescribe the pellets. I don’t want to have to pay a fortune when I have insurance! Thanks
Hi Ruth,
I hope you had a fantastic weekend!
Yes, there is a doctor in Nashville. You can learn more about her by following this link: http://www.bodylogicmd.com/physicians/dr-benita-swartout or you can contact someone from her offcie staff to find answers to all your specific questions – just follow the link below, fill out the form and a staff member will contact you shortly.
http://www.bodylogicmd.com/contact-a-physician?centerId=53
I wish you all the best!
Anyone have any suggestions to get the hormone cream to rub into the skin? I have been using the cream for Testosterone as well as estrogen and I have to say that I hate it. I have been told to apply it in my “thin skin” just before bed. Well, here I am in the nude trying to rub this slime into my skin and it does not absorb AT ALL. It just sits on my skin like paint that won’t dry. I rub rub rub and then wait for what seems like an eternity and still it just sits on my skin. After about 5 minutes I give up and put on my night shirt which then sticks to me where the cream was applied. Then, of course, within half an hour of getting into bed I usually get a hot flash. Then, the cream just turns into this stickly slimy sludge that just saturates my night shirt and the bedding. I hate it. It is slimy and sticky and feels horrible on my skin.
I am also concerned that this is just a waste since I am still having hot flashes every couple of hours every day all day and night. I’m betting that this miracle cream (ha!) is just becoming a crust on my skin and then wiping away on my clothes. I have to say that I liked the pills better. At least you could just take them and go to bed. This nightly ritual of “eeew yuck” is just really starting to make me just want to stop taking them completely.
Any suggestions?
Hi Gail,
I am so sorry you are having so much discomfort! I know my doctor has mentioned that each individual responds differently to the various methods of hormone therapy. My best advice is to chat with an expert. If you would like to contact a doctor in your area, you can follow the link below, fill out the form and someone will contact you shorty to give you answers to all your hormone therapy questions! You must write back and share with the rest of us how this all turns out. I wish you all the best!!
http://www.bodylogicmd.com/contact-a-physician
you could try the injection or the pill form….
go to a doctor. you can’t understand how much of what you need. one of these hormones effects the other and its dangerous to take alone or not by prescription. its worth the money to have your health. I hope you feel better soon.
try the testosterone injections instead of the cream. There’s also a pill.
Dr. Jennifer Landa answers questions about pellet therapy in her February 10th post. Follow this link to get more details about pellet therapy:
http://www.menopausemaniac.com/02-10-2012/pellet-therapy-you-ask-we-answer/
I’ve been on HRC Amor Vie Pellet Therapy for six weeks. I’ve had my first insert w/ a second booster, along w/ b-12 shots. The first week I could feel a difference but since have leveled off. I also am taking their multivitamin & chewable b-12 vitamin. I am on fluoxetine(generic -Prozac) & Topamax for migraines. Could these medications be hindering my absorbtion of the hormones? I am still so tired & fatiged. My mood is down and my concentration is still poor as is my sleep. Sure hope things improve soon. The folks at the office here in San Antonio aren’t helpful at all – just tell me everyones responds differently..gee thanks!
Hi Jackie,
I am so sorry that you are not getting the help you need! I am not a doctor, so I cannot answer all your questions, however, we do have an excellent staff of doctors that offer bioidentical hormone therapy and ensure you have all the information and support you need as you embark on this journey. We have doctors in Houston and Dallas, if you would like to hear from their staff, click the link below, fill out the form and someonw will contact you shortly.
http://www.bodylogicmd.com/contact-a-physician
If you want to get more information about pellet therapy, I have included two links below from our expert physcians, that might answer some of your questions.
http://www.bodylogicmd.com/faq/what-is-pellet-therapy
http://www.menopausemaniac.com/02-10-2012/pellet-therapy-you-ask-we-answer/
Please continue to share your experience – fellow maniacs would love to learn from and support you on your journey.
Hi Jackie!
I too am on the HRC Amor Vie® Therapy for about 7 weeks. The first implant I felt a lot better and now I am still having terrible hot flashes, fatique, everything. I just got off the phone with one of the nurses and she said that it usually doesn’t kick in until 4-5 weeks into the pellet being inserted. She said next week if there was a day that I was feeling really good, to come in and they would draw labs to see where my levels were that made me feel good. Maybe you can do the same? The HRC here in Huntsville, AL is fabulous. I actually was on it in 2009 and after being told I would never be able to have any more children, I got pregnant after 2 implants! I am huge HRC Fan. They are right that everyone is different, but I really like the idea of having a really good day and going and getting my levels checked to see where they need to be for me to feel good again! Let me know if they let you do this!! Take Care!
Hi,
I stated the bioidenticals two weeks ago and began having skin acne again plus experienced severe increase in heart rate. Came off of everything ( progesterone cream, testosterone, vivelle dot, estriol cream. Felt worse on them than off. Has anybody else had this experience???
This is Denise again. I had a complete hysterectomy 4 years ago. Could not take the hot flashes and inability to sleep any longer. So I was hopeful the bioidenticals would help.
Anyone know of an excellent bio identical hormone dr. in the dfw area? I was overdosed on hormones a couple of years ago and didn’t know it. I started getting very anxious and didn’t know the cause. I went off all hormones almost a year ago, but the anxiety is continuing. I’m wondering if I made a mistake getting off the hormones. I’ve never had this issue before. Or maybe I just can’t take hormones. Either way, I just want this anxiety stuff to stop and need help finding someone who can help me.
Hi Helen,
I am so sorry to hear about your experience. There are three excellent bioidentical hormone physicians in Dallas that can assist you. You can read more about each of these physicians at http://www.bodylogicmd.com/bioidentical-hormone-doctors/texas/dallas. If you would to learn more about how these physicians can help you, please follow the link below, fill out the form and someone will contact you shortly to answer all of your questions. http://www.bodylogicmd.com/contact-a-physician
I wish you all the best Helen! Keep us posted on your journey!
~Menopause MANIAC
I am peri mena and had all the symptoms. I had to fight with my OBGYN for BHRT I won and I feel like a million bucks! I don’t Understand some of these posts it should not be costly I pay 70 a month to the compounding pharmacy . Go to a OBGYN and get tested using your insurance . There is no need to go to a specialty facility. Was wondering if anyone here lost belly fat seems like the one thing I can’t fix. I look like an ethiopian with my skinny legs and big belly!
Hi Ladies,
Does anyone know a good dr. in Columbus Ohio. I have been doing pellets for about 2 years but my dr. is not monitoring me at all and I am way out of balance. I need a dr. that will help me figure this all out.
Hi Leslie!
I am sorry you are not having a great experience with your doctor.
There are 2 bioidentical hormone expert physicians in Columbus. You can learn more about these doctors by following this link: http://www.bodylogicmd.com/bioidentical-hormone-doctors/ohio/columbus or you can fill out the form at this link: http://www.bodylogicmd.com/contact-a-physician. Someone will contact from the office nearest you, listen to your needs and tell you how these doctors can help you.
Keep me informed of how things go! Best wishes!!!
~Menopause MANIAC
How do you know these doctors?
Hi Leslie,
My doctor, Dr. Jennifer Landa, is part of a national network of doctors specializing in bioidentical hormone therapy (BHRT), known as BodyLogicMD. In fact, she is the Chief Medical Officer. The training and requirements for these doctors in BHRT and nutrition is extensive – and it is what their practice is dedicated to. Not to mention, it is a requirement of that all these physicians must be board-certified doctors. I began this blog to share with women my experience with BHRT, which has not been exclusively with Dr. Landa, but she has offered me the best experience in service, knowledge and follow-up. I expect the same is true of her peers. You should at least investigate these options and see how you feel – it won’t cost you anything and it is one step closer to feeling better. Each doctor offers FREE seminars, follow this link and click on “Ohio” to find the one that suits your schedule: http://www.bodylogicmd.com/local-seminars or call and chat with the office staff – they are well-trained, knowledgeable and friendly. Please let me know about your experience, Leslie. I truly hope you find a physician that gives you the attention and help you deserve.
Warm regards,
~Menopause MANIAC
HOW DOES ONE GET THEIR INSURANCE TO COVER
BIO IDENTICAL CREAMS?
I HAVE OXFORD>
thanks for your help.
Hi Margo,
You will have to contact various insurance carriers and ask them about their coverage or you may be able to call the pharmacy directly – they may have information on which companies cover those prescriptions most often. Unfortunately, that information is specific to each insurance carrier.
Best of Luck!
~Menopause MANIAC
Does anyone know a good NHRT doctor in the Sarasota, Florida area ?
Thanks,
LT
Hi LT,
There is one doctor near Sarasota that I would recommend you try. You can learn more about Dr. Rubin here: http://www.bodylogicmd.com/physicians/dr-robert-rubin.
Best wishes,
~Menopause MANIAC